And that for me is what Donald Trump represents. But, if I had been told that a conservative Republican was coming on to debate, I probably would have gone, because I’m quite willing to debate competing ideas about how the government should function - should we have a welfare state? Should education be for profit? But I’m just unwilling to debate the humanity of groups of people. But anyway, if I had been told that I would be having a conversation with a Trump supporter, I would not have come. It’s hard to be raised in an Igbo household and be extremely left in the Western sense. I also don’t really consider myself ultra-left. And I don’t consider myself right-wing, I consider myself left-leaning. So even before Donald Trump I subscribed to right-wing publications. I’m interested in people who don’t share my political opinions, because I want to understand their thinking, and also obviously because I want to change their opinions, I want to convince. How should people engage with those who don’t share their views? You had a showdown with a Donald Trump supporter on BBC Newsnight over race in the election. But when it comes to sexism, I find that kind, intelligent, loving people often want me to prove that gender injustice exists.
People who just never ask me to prove that anti-black racism exists.
I felt lonely because the people I love, the people I spend time with, are mostly - and these are people who are not just black, so people from different parts of the world, different races - people who get anti-black racism. But I have often felt lonely in my anger about sexism. It’s not a suggestion somehow that sexism is worse than racism, because I don’t think so. You write that you are angrier about sexism than racism. It’s the idea of a woman being her full, separate self. A woman having a job is kind a pushback to that idea. I think to be female is often to be encouraged to measure your worth based on how much of yourself you’re able to sacrifice. But I also don’t think that that’s a reason not to have a job, particularly if you’re a woman. I think of course the ideal is you love your job, but the reality is that many people don’t. Why do you think it’s good for a mother to have a job, even if it isn’t a job she loves?īecause one of my favorite sayings in Igbo translates very loosely to ‘A woman must have her own.’ And that’s why.
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